Topic: Company for logo and branding; need advice

Hello has anyone heard of or used Artistry Marketing?

Link to their portfolio

http://www.artistrymarketing.com/index. … index.html

We’re considering using them for our logo project.

Thanks

Wayne

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

not familiar with them...some of their stuff is decent and other parts i'm not so impressed with. they're a bit buzzwordy for my tastes as well smile

I'll also admit i'm a bit scared of anyone who focuses on church marketing.

chris (fig): i'm not random, i'm tangent oriented... : www.tangentoriented.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

True, your work looks great. Thanks for the response.

They are talking 1800.00 for a logo..... That is high very high, especially when the average cost for logo is 650.00 or less.

The president of the company wrote a book called church marketing 101... site here: http://www.churchmarketing101.com/

I don't know, we need a great logo for my church..Elevation: http://www.elevationbaptist.org

We tried a local design company in raleigh, nc but they couldn't produce anything great or to our liking. So I'm looking for some Christian based company to work on the logo for us. I found them on this site:

http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/dontsuck.html

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

try checking out:

http://www.logoworks.com

http://www.designoutpost.com/

-Alex

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no offense intended, but those companies are to design what McDonald's is to gourmet food smile

the designers make almost nothing, hence they can change low prices, and you'll be not too surprised to see your logo reused, repurposed, or find out your "original" logo isn't so original. places like that are what makes it harder for all of us to make a decent living.

thanks Wayne, glad you like my stuff. not sure where your numbers are from but your average price sounds a little low. that will of course also vary depending on the type of logo we're talking about, bigger firms and corporations will spend tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on logo and brand development. i'd imagine a large part of that is due to unreasonable numbers of meetings involved in the process smile

chris (fig): i'm not random, i'm tangent oriented... : www.tangentoriented.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

that was extremely enlightening.  thanks for the post.  i had no idea.  good thing i've only heard of them and never supported their businesses.  wink  also, it doesn't necessarily mean designoutpost has the same practices.  their designers aren't on the "payroll" and seem to be made up of actual freelance designers. 

but anyway.  thanks for the heads up about logoworks.

-Alex

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

ok great feedback... thanks

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

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Not a problem Alex. i'm not familiar with design outpost, but it actually does sound like a similar set up to logoworks though with the idea of using a variety of freelance designers to generate a number of logos at a low cost. don't have any firsthand knowledge though so ya never know...

chris (fig): i'm not random, i'm tangent oriented... : www.tangentoriented.com

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Just for researching like over 700 last time I was there...

http://logopond.com/

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Hey, yes I just found that site yesterday aswell.

I think i'm going to do a contest, winner of the best logo design, gets an imac g4.

What do you think?

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

sorry wayne, but as a designer I absolutely hate the idea. most professional designers won't do contests as they're rarely worth the time they take just for a CHANCE to make something back for your time. I might not be able to bill for all the time i'd spend working on a contest entry, but i can probably charge for at least some of it and i'm then guaranteed to make something for my time. even if a designer did win, chances are the prize isn't worth the time they spent. if it's a iMac G4 in this case (assuming you correctly typed G4 and didn't mean G5) then it's definitely not worth it.

you might check out No!Spec for more on why a lot of designer-types aren't fans of this sort of thing.

chris (fig): i'm not random, i'm tangent oriented... : www.tangentoriented.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

ok cool thanks for the feedback, great point.


I contacted Mustard Seed Studio today about creating a logo for us.

http://www.mustardseedstudio.com/


What do you think of there work?

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

I'm not so sure about Mustard Seed's logos, but their site is looking sorta shabby. I too think the contest idea is a bad idea, and think an iMac G4 would be sort of insulting to offer as a prize, considering its age. Just pick someone, and hire them, keeping in mind that you get what you pay for.

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Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

There are some great designers up in raleigh! maybe you can call nc state and see who they might recommend? They have an amazing design school and could pass you along to a great freelancer or a good studio.

I agree with Nathan, though, the contest is not a good idea.

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

Ok, no contest, just feel under a little pressure on the logo. Don't won't to waste church funds and time. Thanks for the feedback. I'll contact nc state.

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

We have a lot of talented designers in these forums -- surely one of them could help you.
Perhaps everyone's just busy?

"I was blind, but now I see!"  John 9:25

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

I just want to say thanks for all the feed back we're going with Artistry Marketing for the logo, i'll let you know how it looks when we're done.

http://www.artistrymarketing.com/index. … index.html

Blessings

Wayne

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

UPDATE: 9-28-06

We changed our minds in our last meeting when went with Mustard Seed Studio - http://www.mustardseedstudio.com/ to do the logo for Elevation Church.

After a few rounds of samples and revisions, this is what we have as our new church logo: http://www.wayne-sutton.com/ebc/logo.jpg

Next we'll be hiring a company to redo our website.

Blessings and thanks.

Wayne

Last edited by wayne12 (2006-09-28 12:23:30)

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

Congratulations on the new logo!

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Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

thanks

wayne sutton | www.wayne-sutton.com

Re: Company for logo and branding; need advice

Wayne -

Nice logo.  Solid imagery, there!

That's my 2¢.  smile

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